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SPEAKER_00: Hey friend, welcome
to the Star Scared Podcast,
where we are mamas who are
wanting crazy meaning more in
our lives outside of just being
a mom.
We love our babies, but man have
we lost ourselves in the cats of
everyday mom life.
My name is Christy, and I'm a
white mama teacher and India
Gram 6 and a projector who used
to be bound by what I thought I
was supposed to say to or be.
So much so that I'm trying to
discover who Christy is right
now in real time.
Together, we're gonna have
honest in real conversation,
just like girlfriends cutting a
bark or coffee on the back
porch.
We're gonna cut through the VS
stories we tell ourselves and
find clarity to start scared of
putting ourselves first.
Because girl, who you are
outside of being a mom still
matters.
It is time that we live out the
dreams and the desires that God
has placed on our hearts, even
if we don't know what that is
quite yet.
But I got you.
We're in this together.
So grab your drink, meet me on
the back porch, and let's do
this.
Hey friend, thank you so much
for being here today.
Um, So you know that this
podcast is uh has been a lot of
times been used as like a diary
of sorts.
Um, there's not ever really a
whole lot of scriptedness going
on.
Um, and I share with you my life
and what's going on.
And so um my grandmother passed
away early on the morning of
November 3rd, around 3 a.m.
And I don't know how else to
describe it other than the
timing just felt right, like
completely orchestrated by God.
There was um, I woke up about 3
a.m.
Um, or a little bit before that,
and then a huge storm came by,
came through.
There was thunder and light,
lightning.
And I, you know, when I woke up,
the first thing I did, knowing
that, you know, she might pass
soon, I checked my phone to make
sure I didn't miss a text
message or a phone call for my
mom.
But um, you know, after finding
out that she, you know, passed
away and finding out about the
time that she passed away was
about 3 a.m., you know, there
was thunder and lightning
outside.
And it felt like Jesus and the
angels and all of our family
members up in heaven were
celebrating and welcoming her
into heaven while we here on
earth were shedding tears.
You know, the rain was falling
here as, you know,
representation of tears and
sadness here on earth, but the
lightning and the thunder were
celebratory as she was being
welcomed into you know the arms
of Jesus.
And then just a few hours later,
the it was the most beautiful,
warm and sunny November day.
And I couldn't help but think of
the juxtaposition of it all,
like love and loss, sadness and
joy, thunderstorms and sunshine.
You know, it's funny how how
life can hold two completely
different feelings at the same
exact same time.
And if you were here at all four
years ago when my dad passed
away, um we talked a lot about
that, you know, that there was,
you know, sadness and joy can
sit at the same table.
Love and loss can sit at the
same table, happiness and grief
can sit at the same table.
And that's kind of what I want
to talk about today.
And it's funny how this is, you
know, almost exactly four years
ago from the same kind of
conversation that we had after
my dad passed away.
Um, because he passed away
November 6th, um, 2022.
And, you know, grief and
gratitude, they can sit at the
same table.
So um the day before she passed
away, Monday, um, I got to spend
about three hours with my
grandmother.
Um, my mom or me and my husband
and um our 11-year-old son,
Bruce, went up there.
They were there for about 15, 20
minutes, not very long, but then
I stayed.
My mom came up, my aunt came up,
my uncle came up, and we were
all there together.
Um, Grandma Laurie had dementia.
And if you have ever watched
someone that you love walk
through this disease, you know
how how heartbreaking it is.
Um, it's hard to watch someone
who was once so full of life
slowly become someone that you
don't recognize.
Um, I always said that it
exasperated um some of her
negative qualities and made it
that much worse.
You know, we all have negative
qualities, we all have positive
qualities.
Like, why doesn't dementia
exasperate the positive
qualities?
You know what I mean?
Um, but it's so hard, you know,
you you grieve pieces of them
before they're actually gone.
You know what I mean?
Like we were slowly over the
last several years losing
grandma, and you're grieving
those pieces, and she's still
physically here.
And one of the things that
really kind of fascinated me
about my grandmother and about
dementia is was her memory.
Like she could remember stories
from decades ago in vivid
detail, down to the bows on her
socks and shoes when she was
telling me a story about um when
she was a little girl.
And she could tell you things
that happened years and years
and years ago, and what she felt
and where she was and what it
was like.
And but she couldn't remember
what she had for breakfast that
morning.
Um, you know, think about that
for a minute.
Like I can't, I can't remember
things that I did years and
years and years ago, but she
knew the exact detail as though
she was like looking at a
photograph, but could not
remember what she had for
breakfast that morning.
And it made me think about, you
know, some of the things that
stay with us.
Um and maybe things that I can't
physically remember now that
maybe will come back later.
I don't know.
But, you know, the things that
stay with us, the stories and
the people and the moments, you
know, all of those things that
shape us into who we are today,
the good, the bad, the ugly, you
know.
And I don't know, um, you know,
obviously I don't have a
profound takeaway from any of
this.
You know, I just want to share
with you what is going on in my
life.
But I do know that when I was
sitting with grandma the the day
before she passed away, um,
sitting there with her and my
family, I was so incredibly
grateful for the time that we
had.
Like, um, you know, even when
the conversation wasn't, you
know, what it used to be, right?
Like grandma couldn't speak
anymore at the end.
And um, she was sleeping most of
the time.
Um, when I saw her on Monday,
she was she was awake for maybe
20 or 30 minutes that I was
there on the rest of the time.
She was asleep the week before I
saw her.
She only said a couple words.
Um, I could tell that she wanted
to say things.
She like would clench her fists,
looking like she wanted to say
something, um, but couldn't.
Um she did speak a couple words,
but um, and then when I saw her
a couple weeks before that, I
could tell that like her voice
was changing, it was different.
It was probably from you know,
lack of use.
And um, but for the last, you
know, little bit, she wasn't
speaking much.
Um and even though she wasn't
obviously the grandmother that I
remembered, she was still my
grandmother.
And I was so grateful that I got
to be there, and I was so
grateful that I got to be there
with my mom and my aunt and my
uncle, and that we just got to
spend time together.
I feel like it was better than
just being there by myself
because we could sit and chat
and talk as if she was there,
you know, as if she was, you
know, participating in the
conversation rather than you
know, laying in bed sleeping.
But I think she knew we were
there.
Um, one of the things that I've
been thinking about a lot today
is my mom.
Um, you know, she has gone
through a lot of loss and um a
lot of struggles the last
several years.
You know, she lost her husband
of 40 years, um, you know, four
years ago.
And um, she's been a caregiver
for my grandmother for years,
and she's the oldest daughter.
So, you know, a lot of the
responsibility falls on her
shoulders.
And then when my dad died, she
became the caregiver of his mom.
So not only was she caregiving
for grandma Lori, and then my
dad got sick and she was
caregiver for him, and then he
died, and then my grandmother
got worse, and so she was
constantly trying to take care
of um Grandma Lori, and then
adding Nana on top of that.
It's just like she hasn't had
the chance to live her life,
right?
And um, you know, as for me,
losing a grandmother is really
hard.
Um, you know, my mom, my mom
still had both of her parents up
until last week.
And um, but I can't imagine
losing a mom.
I feel like, at least in my
situation and our situation,
like um, you know, my mom and I
are very, very close.
And um I just feel like losing a
mom is, you know, obviously
something entirely different
than just losing a grandmother.
I mean, I hate to say just.
That's I take that back.
It's not just losing your
grandmother is hard.
I think losing a mother is
entirely different than that.
Just like, you know, I remember
when my dad died, and um, I
remember the sadness and the
questions and the weirdness of
knowing that someone who had
always been a part of my life
was suddenly no longer
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Well, thank you.
All right, girl, let's jump back
in.
But then also knowing that my
mom was experiencing some
experiencing something extremely
different than what I was
experiencing because it wasn't
her dad, it was her partner,
like her chosen person, right?
And so now I'm, you know, I'm
watching my mom experience the
same kind of loss that I had
when I lost my dad.
And there's just something about
watching your parent lose their
parent that kind of hits
differently.
Like, you want to make it
better, you want to take away
the sadness, you want to say
something that makes it hurt
less.
But I see my mom and I see her
strength and her resilience.
And I also see you know, we're
we're talking about grief and
and gratitude can sit at the
same table, right?
Like I feel like the loss of
grandma is very bittersweet,
right?
Like, um, bitter because she
lost her mother and she is no
longer physically here, but
sweet because you know,
grandma's no longer in pain.
She's no longer suffering.
She's healed and whole in
heaven.
And, you know, with the family
members that we've already lost.
And then I feel like my mom,
once obviously she's going
through a lot right now,
getting, you know, um, taking
care of stuff for the funeral
home and um, you know, canceling
social security and her pension
and blah, blah, blah, you know,
all of those things.
But I told her, I said, those
have an end date.
Like you do those and you cross
them off your list and you're
done.
And then she's gonna have, I
feel like soon she's going to be
able to take a full breath for
the first time in a long time.
Um, because grandma was a lot
for her um, responsibility-wise.
And, you know, thankfully, right
now, Nana is not, um, she's
doing great and she's an
assisted living, and she's um,
you know, and I'm I'm I've been
helping my mom with Nana.
And so I feel like for the first
time, my mom's gonna be able,
first time in a long time, she's
gonna be able to take a deep
breath and figure out, okay, I
am 67 years old.
What do I like to do now?
You know, rather than just
always being caregiver, you
know, what do I like to do?
And maybe she'll, you know, she
can travel more because she
loves to travel and she won't
feel guilty about leaving, you
know, grandma for a few days at
a time.
And um, so I feel like this this
season of life is um a little
bit bit bittersweet um for my
mom.
And I don't know if if you're
listening and um you've ever
lost a parent um or you're
watching, you know, a parent
walk through the loss of someone
that they love.
Um I just want to acknowledge
that grief is complicated,
right?
There's no right way to grieve,
there's no wrong way to grieve.
You grieve the way that you
grieve.
And um it may look different
than what someone else, how
someone else grieves.
And someone else may judge you
for the way that you grieve.
And that's not okay because we
are all walking through this
loss together.
And yeah, we're gonna grieve in
a different way.
There's no wrong way, there's no
right way, and nobody should
feel guilty or bad about the way
that they they feel right now.
And there's no timeline, and
there's no, like I said, there's
no perfect way to do it.
And um, you don't have to be
strong every minute of every
day.
You don't have to cry every
minute of every day.
You know, some minutes you're
laughing, you're joking around,
and then it hits you, and then
you're like, wait a second,
they're gone, or you go to pick
up the phone to call and you're
like, wait a second, I can't do
that.
You know, it's just it's crazy.
So I don't know.
This is what I keep coming back
to.
Like, just like when my dad
died, I have been reminded over
and over and over that grief and
gratitude can coexist.
They can sit at the same table
at the exact same time.
We can be deeply sad that
someone is no longer here while
we're simultaneously being
thankful that their suffering is
over.
Like we can miss someone
terribly, but still find comfort
in knowing that they're not in
pain anymore.
And that's okay.
You know, we can cry because we
want one more conversation or
one more smile because you know,
we're remembering a conversation
from many years ago, and we can
wish things that had been
different, but we can still feel
gratitude for the way that
things were.
And I think that sometimes we
put unnecessary, you know,
pressure on ourselves to choose
one emotion.
Just like I said, like there's
no wrong way to grieve.
You don't have to be sad all the
time, right?
Like if we're grateful, we
shouldn't be sad, right?
Or if we're sad, we shouldn't be
able to find the joy.
But why?
Why can't we hold both?
Why can't we hold both
simultaneously?
And yeah, today I'm sad.
I'm sad for my mom.
I'm sad for our family.
I'm sad that my grandmother's
story on this earth has come to
an end.
But I'm also grateful.
I'm grateful that dementia no
longer has a hold on her.
You know, I'm I'm grateful that
she's no longer suffering.
I'm grateful that she gets to be
re reunited with her husband and
her mom and her stepdad and um
her first husband's dad, whom
she loved so much.
And and, you know, it's just
like I'm grateful that I got to
be her granddaughter.
I'm grateful that I was born on
her birthday and we got to
share, we got to share our
birthdays for 42 years.
You know, I think that faith
gives us such a beautiful
perspective.
It it doesn't mean that we don't
grieve and we don't feel
sadness, it doesn't mean that we
don't cry.
It doesn't, it doesn't mean that
we don't wish we had more time.
It means that even in our
sadness, we have hope.
You know, sometimes hope is what
carries us through those those
moments, um, those hard, hard
moments, right?
Um and while losing someone on
earth is hard.
And you know, I keep thinking
back to like what a love we had
in order to feel such sadness.
Like, think about that.
We wouldn't be so sad if we
didn't have such a special
relationship with the person
that we lost.
Like the reason it hurts is
because they mattered to us.
The reason we miss them is
because they are so woven into
our lives.
And the reason we we we wish we
could have one more day, one
more phone call, one more story
is because that relationship
meant something to us.
And I don't want to make grief
something we have to fix or get
over because sometimes grief is
just love that doesn't have the
same place to go to anymore.
And you know, part of honoring
someone is allowing us to feel
the weight of that love, even
when it's hard.
You know, someone doesn't stop
being a part of our story just
because their earthly life has
ended.
So if you are going through love
and loss, you know, just like we
are right now, you know, let's
give ourselves permission to
feel all of it.
You know, the sadness, the
gratitude, the memories, the
tears, the joy.
You know, I'm gonna let that
sunshine, you know, feel good
without feeling guilty that, you
know, it's such a beautiful day
out today.
Um, even though someone I love
has has died and gone on to
heaven.
And, you know, I'm gonna be sad
for my mom while also being
thankful that my grandmother is
no longer suffering, but also
being thankful and and grateful
for my mom because now she can
take a take a deep breath and
she can find what brings her joy
now and live her life for
herself and not always for
somebody else.
And I'm, you know, I'm gonna
remember that all of these
things can be true at the same
time.
They can sit side by side at the
same table.
And so if you're in the season
of loss, you know, I hope you
give yourself that same
permission.
You know, you don't have to
choose between grief and
gratitude.
You can miss someone and
celebrate their life.
You can cry on a sunny day, you
can feel joy on a rainy day, you
can laugh when remembering
someone you've lost, you can be
heartbroken and hopeful at the
same exact time.
Both can be true.
And, you know, I think that's
the most beautiful part of being
human is we get to love people
so deeply that even after
they're gone, that love is still
felt.
And um, yeah, I just want to
thank you for being here today.
Um, thank you for your love and
your prayers and just being a
part of this community.
And if you have someone that
you're missing, take a minute
today to remember a story about
them.
Um, tell someone or write it
down, keep it alive, keep their
memory alive.
Um and yeah, I hope that you
have a beautiful day.
And um I will talk to you next
week, same time, same place.